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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #6 on Sept 17, 2006, 5:09pm » 

 

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I have a few thoughts on this matter of certain bacteria and Morgellons….my husband and I were infected from his wastewater treatment plant in 1993/1994 introduced these genetically modified nematodes with certain bacteria and these were to help clean up the sludge from the wastewater…..it was a prototype of operation all eyes on how WELL things were going meanwhile every coworker and their families and pets are now infected with this disease…..I have heard now of other situations were these nematodes were used for other applications as well…..not just at wastewater treatment plants….for instance for use in extermination applications…..the new and improved no chemicals idea was going to save the world…..well what a horrific mistake…..no wonder we can’t get any help…for to get help THEY would have to admit this huge burden of fault….THEY thought — let the infected blend into the statistics and be done with it…..but this silent epidemic has gone to far for that and infected far more than THEY could imagine…..

 

So for Morgellons infected to have this bacteria is very possible it may have been put there to serve a purpose with the nematode…. 

 

 

 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #10 on Sept 18, 2006, 12:15pm » 

 

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Well it didn’t take long to connect the dots after reconnecting with my husband’s old coworkers……we moved from the area 2 years after intial infection….lets see 1993 we lived near Freeport, Texas one of the cluster areas for this disease…..this particular chemical plant was the prototype for introducing these microbes into the wastewater treatment facility my husband was a mechancial technician and was part of the team that installed and did ongoing maintenance of the digester and equipment necessary for these microbes to live…..there were NO safety procedures in place for the maintenance workers in fact my husband was oiling parts of this blower while the blower was still running holding his breath while standing in this jet stream spraying all over his body (these weren’t dangerous!!!)……anyway…..because this was all new the scientists at the wastewater treatment area had the mechanical technicians looking at these genetically modified nematodes and bacteria under their microscopes in fact they used to have compititions to see who could find one first one on a slide…..he said it was like looking for a bass in the pacific ocean…….my husband saw 3 different organisms under these microscopes……one was the genetically modified nematode pinworm looking thing, then one that had pincher looking things on it like a crab, and the other one he saw was just football shape protozoa look…..my husband was getting these sores on his back and he just called them heat bumps and thought they were from working around the chemical plant and crap in the air that sort of thing….but really they were Morgellons lesions and anyway about 6 months into this I became very sick high liver count, sweats, severe back of the head aching so bad I couldn’t lift my head off the pillow I had been to several doctors and no ideas so ended up at the Diagnostic Clinic in Houston and they thought oh you have Encephilitis or Menningitis (sorry for spelling) but NO not that anyway they finally just put me into this Hep B category and sent me home for 2 weeks I suffered but eventually recovered (so I thought) and to this day my liver counts have been normal since…..my husband suffered from high liver counts himself but they racked it off to…..well it is your medications causing your liver to sky rocket……took him off certain meds and went through PROSORBA treatments (blood dylalsis) 24 treatments and I think this saved his life for I believe that PROSORBA filtered some of these microbes out of his system because a fellow coworker in 1997 called us from Lake Jackson Hospital and said he was in the hospital and his liver was failing him…..he wasn’t as lucky and died……another coworker and his family (wife diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, he has painful joints and Morgellons symptoms, another coworker has painful joints and speech problems, rashes, every coworker from my husbands mechanical technician work are infected. What we have found is this disease can take some time for symptoms to appear and others immediately…..his daughter that started to visit us in Arizona at age 16 did not show any indication of infection for 5 years

 

we think it is how many of these are in your system and how quickly they reproduce your health condition at the time of infection all relates to when symptoms first appear and some first indicators can be very misleading like high liver counts or unexplained rashes or unexplained pains in your body…..it was 2 years after my high liver count episode that I had my first lesions and since then never been without lesions on my body although the last few years have been unbearable (more and more and more frequently) my health has really deteriorated the last several years….my husband also heard that just one little barrel of these microbes was $10,000 and that the facility manager was always worried about someone killing his microbes…..and I guess Ph was a big concern…..don’t mess up the Ph and kill my Bugs he used to say….. 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #11 on Sept 23, 2006, 10:11am » 

 

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Cliff and friends…..

 

After speaking with one of my husband’s coworkers from the wastewater treatment plant last night (he is also sick) this fellow coworker thought he remembered there were 5 or 6 different types of microbes in the barrel of goodies but couldn’t remember seeing the others just the ones my husband was able to see under the microscopes……so there might have been nore than just those 3 we tried to describe for you…….sorry we don’t have any more info on the other 2 or 3 and what they looked like……I guess this is really useless info…..except for you to know more than 3 microbes were in the batches…. 

 

 

 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #12 on Sept 23, 2006, 11:04am » 

 

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Hi Sick and Tired:

 

Thanks for finding out what you could. I don’t personally have any problem with the concept that there are/may be microbes involved in this affliction, (We have already documented some VERY unusual microbial forms) but I feel that there is a high probability that they are secondary players in the general scheme of things. In other words they are part of the effect, but not the cause.

 

There is a macro parasitic form involved here that tends to escape detection due to the overly obsessive (but natural) tendency of folks to focus on the much more sensational colored micro fibers. “This allows the primary form to generally flaunt itself right before everyone’s eyes, yet escape detection.

 

To use a familiar analogy, everyone is so dazzled by the “fruit” that they fail to see the tree that produces it.

 

I have addressed this issue in several of my posts on the “articles” page. By the way, an increasing amount of evidence points to the possibility that this “macro” form may effectively “farm” certain types of microbes and actively eradicate others. This may explain one of the more unusual occurrences reported by many patients; …the fact that secondary bacterial infections in and about the periphery of lei sons are extremely rare despite excessive damage to the skin and the resultant exposure to open sources of normal infection.

 

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« Reply #14 on Sept 23, 2006, 11:13am » 

 

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NO we agree with you 100% the nematode like creature is the major culprit of this disease…..this nematode was also in these batches with these other microbes…..we were just trying to let you know there were probably 5-6 different kinds of microbes in these barrels…… 

 

 

 

 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #20 on Sept 24, 2006, 12:49am » 

 

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Dear Sickandtired,

 

Do you think that you might have Cryptosporidium bug in your systems? There aren’t many places that don’t have it ,and it is especially prevalent in wastewater systems, chlorine doesn’t kill it and they’re allowing it to be released into the waterways.

 

“Cryptosporidium parvum. Cryptosporidium parvum, a single-celled animal, i.e., a protozoa, is an obligate intracellular parasite. It has been given additional species names when isolated from different hosts. It is currently thought that the form infecting humans is the same species that causes disease in young calves. The forms that infect avian hosts and those that infect mice are not thought capable of infecting humans. Cryptosporidium sp. infects many herd animals (cows, goats, sheep among domesticated animals, and deer and elk among wild animals). The infective stage of the organism, the oocyst is 3 um in diameter or about half the size of a red blood cell. The sporocysts are resistant to most chemical disinfectants, but are susceptible to drying and the ultraviolet portion of sunlight. Some strains appear to be adapted to certain hosts but cross-strain infectivity occurs and may or may not be associated with illness. The species or strain infecting the respiratory system is not currently distinguished from the form infecting the intestines.

Infectious dose–Less than 10 organisms and, presumably, one organism can initiate an infection. The mechanism of disease is not known; however, the intracellular stages of the parasite can cause severe tissue alteration.” (US FDA/CFSAN – Bad Bug Book).

 

And: Parasites in sewage waste water:

http://www.house.gov/transportation/water/04-13-05/rose.pdf

 

http://www.house.gov/list/press/mi01_stupak/030305sewagebill.html

 

 

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« Reply #21 on Sept 24, 2006, 9:23am » 

 

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I found my answers – or at least, my confirmations.

 

Be warned. This is not for the faint-hearted. To get your feet wet, you may want to start out with this post: http://www.blinkbits.com/bits/viewtopic/morgellons_appears_to_be_quorum_sensing_stem_cell_technology?t=2094379

 

If you’re OK with that, see the videos (they require broadband, but it is worth finding a PC if you don’t have the bandwidth). And check out the names of the visitors to the site that scroll across the page.

 

I recognize many of the shots in this video, as being under my own microscope. OMG.

 

I didn’t sleep very well last night. http://www.silentsuperbug.com

 

 

 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #22 on Sept 24, 2006, 11:12am » 

 

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It is unfortunate that all the mechanical technicians my husband worked with are all sick….BUT this is interesting news…..

 

This particular chemical plant left town…….they were making the big bucks from the product they produced and then all of a sudden they hauled their butts out of town….closed shop….the wastewater treatment plant is still there we have been told but not the company……..

 

DID THEY REALIZE this huge error regarding the barrel of fun and all the wastewater treatment employees were getting sick…….and closed shop……don’t know for sure…..but not many chemcial plants just close shop like that……they had a huge investment in this plant for it was built for them…..

 

and as far as the microbes in the barrel of fun……my husband only saw the 3 we tried to describe but there was a handy reference card that came with the creatures and there was at least 5-6 different kinds in this witches brew……

 

and yes I believe the wastewater treatment plant was supposed to kill off the microbes after they did their jobs of cleaning the sludge and did this by changing the Ph back and forth (my husband didn’t do that part) and then released as grey water……safe, safe, safe…….oh really…..I don’t see safe anymore I see disease…..and it is my thoughts only that this is part of the culprit that is killing off salt marshes on the east coast this same nematode creature….it certainly makes me wonder…. 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #23 on Sept 24, 2006, 5:31pm » 

 

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Oh dear, Thinker…..that is a really amazing site you’ve found, thanks. Even though it is ghastly in the extreme…..if that’s what we’re dealing with, noboby’s going to around for much longer, are they?

 

Of course “they” could be trying to turn us into these multiforme creatures who are aquatic, triffidlike and avian, who don’t need the textile industry because we can grow our own clothes!

 

But, to be stoic about it, in the big picture…when it’s all over….”they” will be wherever they were meant to go and we’ll be in a different reality. Mean to say…that little irritating bit between the shoulderblades…..it’s not Morgellons…..indeedy no…it’s the golden wings starting to grow!!! Cheers! Hope you are having a nice weekend. 

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« Reply #24 on Sept 25, 2006, 10:34am » 

 

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Dear Aussie, Skytroll and friends

 

We looked at your websties Skytroll and after so many years and to try and compare what is on the website with what he was looking at under the microscopes at work it is difficult to say….what is what…..these were macroscopic creatures they were looking for on a slide in fun……not really as a learning project….so hard to say for sure what creatures he was looking at…..but did you notice the nematode and the other one that interested me was the filamontious bacteria beside the nematode it sort of looks like some of the pictures from our morgellonsusa web site……very similiar in looks thats for sure….

 

and Aussie there is not telling what we have in our bodies…..I feel like I have been fighting a virus for 12 years now……and only getting worse not better……thats why I am sick and tired…..slept 12 hours yesterday couldn’t do a dam thing….just like the slug Cliff sees under the microscope….I have these lesions all over my head right now and the back of my neck feels like the tag on a shirt that continually poles your neck until you cut the tag off….only I can’t do that….the tag is gone long ago…

 

This is the worst national disaster of all times no wonder “THEY” have tried and tried to cover up this mess…. 

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« Reply #25 on Sept 25, 2006, 10:46am » 

 

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OOPS I forgot to mention….another observation….on the MRF website….on the map that highlights the cases of this disease….notice how the states along the water highlight first (wastewater treatment plants) and then the interior states are the last ones to highlight……..except for Arizona which is where we moved after being infected in Texas….so we carried this disease to Arizona and spread it around to previous coworkers in Arizona……..good lord help us……we didn’t know we had an infectious disease until way to late…….not one doctor in 12 years even mentioned infectious????? while observing the open lesions on my skin amazing…..also have THEY written in the medical journals this DOP on purpose…….who knows….THEY do 

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  Re: MORGELLONS BEING FOUND IN ANIMALS AND INSECTS!

« Reply #26 on Oct 5, 2006, 9:10am » 

 

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Starts with initial bug bites, possibly in trangenic insects.

 

http://morphborgs.blog.com/

 

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